Hey, there is no information regarding usage and licencing? As an asset pack I'm assuming It's made for other people to use, but I see no information regarding this.
In the message system how do I keep the messages going without closing the phone. I want to send and receive messages but I can only get it to work when I have to open and close the phone
Not sure if this is a version specific issue, or a problem with some tweaks I made, but on my current renpy version, 8.2.3.24061702, the phone steps dialogue forward a step between the relationships screen, and the phonePal screen, despite both being modal.
Quick hacked together fix I've managed, change all numbered instances of
Great help, but any chance you could make the phone positioning programmatic? (I admit I'm completely new to Python.. but I've tried everything to move the phonepos and none of the contents appear anchored to the phone frame.) Sorry if I'm just an idiot.. this Python/RenPy is completely foreign, unlike C# or Java. lol
Is there anyway to use this where the messages don't all show up at once? I've tried using the msg_count option but that doesn't change anything if the player isn't looking at the phone when that happens, and if they are in the phone and want to go to the next message they have to close the phone, click to go to the next line, and then go back into the phone to see the next message.
provided you are using the correct _msg_count it will change for that particular (message sender)/person and the only way to update that screen is to open/show it so you have to close it
Hi , newbie coder here, how do you only make the phone show select messages, for example i have an if statement that triggers says message 1 and 5 but it also shows the messages in between .
hope that makes sense, this was an amazing asset and thanks
I don't have anything set in place to do, but you can do it manually like this
$ girl1_message.pop(0) # that would remove the first message in the list for girl1
if you do, keep in mind that since you removed the first message number (0) zero, now message (1) one is the new message (0) zero
it shifts everything below it to fill in the empty space and it can NOT be reversed or put back (the message is burned forever (unless you restart the game)), good way to gaslight your character i guess
I know this is years after the fact, but for anyone here in the future, you can just implement the messages via the label and dialogue system rather than placing them in the messages section of the script and trying to pop out the ones you don't want, this allows for modular dialogue to play out, which I think is what the asker was going for here. For example I'm using a hacked together copy of the message system to pop up a fake text screen in the center of the screen, and implement the messages like this :
$ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("Hey new guy, asked Liv to grab your number for me.", False, 0)]
$ girl3_msg_count += 1
show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name)
pause
$ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("Mind coming to meet me out in the woods? Got a surprise for you.", False, 0)]
$ girl3_msg_count += 1
show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name)
pause
Adding new messages in that method makes filling out the array rollback safe, and the message isn't added to the chat system until that section of the label is reached, so if you talk to her about something else sooner, or choose to not have this conversation, it won't go into the chat history.
So are you able to play out the messages sequentially WITHOUT closing and opening the text window? Because thats my only issue with this phone system...
I want to be able to have the text convos live like they are immersive building tension/delivering story with the app staying open.
If you are doing that with this system without having to use nvl or something that would be awesome to know
Yes and no, technically I am using a fake message screen, one I have set up to show up in the center of the screen. It's in the normal label system, so each click takes you a step forward, and it's rollback safe. You get the texts at set periods of time (It'd be doable to choose to do them at any time, but a bit messy) so you're never actually in the "real" text window.
Here's an imgur gallery of what's happening, between each image is a single click, no phone navigation (Please ignore the separate font on image 3, these were wip images and I fixed up the menu options later, and had decided to swap to the default font for the phone because it's easier to read the smaller text)
To do that I added this to the bottom of mobile.rpy
####################################################
########## MESSAGE CHAT ###########
####################################################
transform chatpos:
xalign .5
yalign 0.5
screen chat_message(count, girl, messageholder, gname):
zorder 0
modal False
add "Mobile/Backgrounds/phone_msg_bg2.webp" at chatpos
add "Mobile/Icons/girl[girl]_msg_icon_sign.webp":
xalign 0.5
yalign 0.275
text "[gname]":
color "#000000"
xalign 0.55
yalign 0.275
vpgrid:
cols 1
rows 1
ymaximum 445
xmaximum 285
mousewheel True
scrollbars "vertical"
side_xalign 0.5
side_yalign 0.565
yfill False
xfill False
yinitial 1.0
hbox:
style_prefix "msg_style"
vbox:
spacing 5
for i in range(0, count):
frame:
if messageholder[i].fromMC:
background Frame("images/mobile/backgrounds/sent_background.webp", 0,0,0,0)
else:
background Frame("images/mobile/backgrounds/received_background.webp", 0,0,0,0)
vbox:
xsize 250
if messageholder[i].fromMC:
add "images/mobile/backgrounds/nuggetR.webp" size (16, 16) xalign 1.0 yalign 0.0
else:
add "images/mobile/backgrounds/nuggetL.webp" size (16, 16) xalign 0.0 yalign 0.0
text messageholder[i].message
if messageholder[i].selfie > 0:
#BadMustard 0 = no image 1 - 1million = an image from the list
#use the thumb for the button
imagebutton idle phone_images[messageholder[i].selfie].thumb:
action Show("phone_closeup", dissolve, phone_images[messageholder[i].selfie].images)
xalign 0.5
yalign 0
########## MESSAGE CHAT STOP ###########
I also added this to screens.rpy, under the choice screen section, which you can find with ctrl+f "screen choice(items):"
screen choice(items):
if isTexting:
vpgrid:
cols 1
rows 1
xmaximum 300
xalign .7
yalign .6
hbox:
style_prefix "msg_style"
vbox:
xsize 300
spacing 10
for i in items:
frame:
xalign 1.0
background Frame("images/mobile/backgrounds/sent_background.webp", 0,0,0,0)
textbutton i.caption action i.action
else:
style_prefix "choice"
vbox:
for i in items:
textbutton i.caption action i.action
When you want to use the text message choice screen for menus, you simply add "$ isTexting = True" before the menu choice, and then "$ isTexting = False" when you are done texting.
A full example dialogue (The one in the imgur gallery) looks like this
#Hides the sidebar phone screen
hide screen phoneaway
#Enables Texting Menu Options
$ isTexting = True
#Enables contact info for girl3 on the phone, you only should do this the first time, if you don't enable contact info by default
$ girl3_phone = True
#Adds the message to her text queue
$ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("Hey new guy, asked Liv to grab your number for me.", False, 0)]
#Makes the message appear in her text screen
$ girl3_msg_count += 1
#Calls my fake phone chat screen
show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name)
#Makes you need to click to continue
pause
#Adds the second message
$ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("Mind coming to meet me out in the woods? Got a surprise for you.", False, 0)]
#And makes it appear in her text screen
$ girl3_msg_count += 1
#Hides the old screen to prevent cluttering a bunch of layers
hide screen chat_message
#Brings up the new screen
show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name)
pause
menu:
"Jane?":
$ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("Is this Jane?", True, 0)]
$ girl3_msg_count += 1
hide screen chat_message
show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name)
pause
$ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("No it's Santa Claus, now get your butt out here! It's fucking cold away from the fire.", False, 0)]
$ girl3_msg_count += 1
hide screen chat_message
show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name)
pause
"New Phone Who Dis?":
$ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("New phone, who dis?", True, 0)]
$ girl3_msg_count += 1
hide screen chat_message
show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name)
pause
$ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("You've got two minutes to get out here before I start rethinking this idea.", False, 0)]
$ girl3_msg_count += 1
show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name)
hide screen chat_message
#Shows the sidebar phone again
show screen phoneaway
$ isTexting = False
I believe this would be tweakable to work in the "real" phone, but imo I think having the conversation brought up to the center of the screen works better than hiding it off in the corner.
If you want to make it so that you can jump to the conversations from the phone at any time, you'd have to create a label specifically for the conversation, and then some various if statement checks to figure out which label to go to every time you interact with the texting system on the phone. I considered that when I started working on things, but this just ended up being easier for me. You can still open the conversation history on the phone when you want to look back at things.
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Hey, there is no information regarding usage and licencing? As an asset pack I'm assuming It's made for other people to use, but I see no information regarding this.
use it, abuse it, confuse it, don't claim it as your own, add me in your credits if you want, same licensing as Ren'Py
no the only way to update the messages is to close the message screen and re-open it
ok, thanks. Last thing and i don t bother you anymore :
Is there a way to create a line of script that would block the progress of the scenario until the player hasn t looked at the phone?
In the message system how do I keep the messages going without closing the phone. I want to send and receive messages but I can only get it to work when I have to open and close the phone
yes the only way to get it to update is to close the phone as that was how it was originally setup to be used
II love this.
This looks so cool
Just a question.
Can I use this in a commercial project?
yes you can
Thank you
you're welcome
good luck with your project
Not sure if this is a version specific issue, or a problem with some tweaks I made, but on my current renpy version, 8.2.3.24061702, the phone steps dialogue forward a step between the relationships screen, and the phonePal screen, despite both being modal.
Quick hacked together fix I've managed, change all numbered instances of
Call("phonePal", 1, girl1_name, girl1_love, girl1_lust, girl1_dominance, girl1_submissive, girl1_pregnant)
to
Show("central_stats", girl=1, name=girl1_name, love=)girl1_love, lust=girl1_lust, dominance=girl1_dominance, submissive=girl1_submissive, pregnant=girl1_pregnant)
It's a bit messy, but I believe that should work nearly as well as your the current implementation and it gets rid of the problem for me.
Is this free to use and distribute?
it is free to use in a project that you distribute
Great help, but any chance you could make the phone positioning programmatic? (I admit I'm completely new to Python.. but I've tried everything to move the phonepos and none of the contents appear anchored to the phone frame.) Sorry if I'm just an idiot.. this Python/RenPy is completely foreign, unlike C# or Java. lol
no it's not set up like that and would probably be need to full re-write to be able to do that
Thank you for the response.
you're welcome
good luck with your project
Is there anyway to use this where the messages don't all show up at once? I've tried using the msg_count option but that doesn't change anything if the player isn't looking at the phone when that happens, and if they are in the phone and want to go to the next message they have to close the phone, click to go to the next line, and then go back into the phone to see the next message.
provided you are using the correct _msg_count it will change for that particular (message sender)/person and the only way to update that screen is to open/show it so you have to close it
Hi , newbie coder here, how do you only make the phone show select messages, for example i have an if statement that triggers says message 1 and 5 but it also shows the messages in between .
hope that makes sense, this was an amazing asset and thanks
you can NOT show a message out of sequence from the list
i.e. you can NOT show #1 then #5, you would have to show #1-5
or re-organize the list
ok thanks i had hoped there was a way with .pop or remove but no such joy .
thanks for the quick reply
I don't have anything set in place to do, but you can do it manually like this
$ girl1_message.pop(0) # that would remove the first message in the list for girl1
if you do, keep in mind that since you removed the first message number (0) zero, now message (1) one is the new message (0) zero
it shifts everything below it to fill in the empty space and it can NOT be reversed or put back (the message is burned forever (unless you restart the game)), good way to gaslight your character i guess
Thanks i did try that before but i then run into an empty list error attempting a work around .
amazing coding btw and thanks for showing what it all does.
yes the list must have something in it before you pop it. (and being python zero (0) is the first entry and number 1 is the second.
as long as you follow the format $ nameOfTheList.pop(entryNumber)
I can't take all the credit Cr8tiveM3dia did some of the coding to.
I know this is years after the fact, but for anyone here in the future, you can just implement the messages via the label and dialogue system rather than placing them in the messages section of the script and trying to pop out the ones you don't want, this allows for modular dialogue to play out, which I think is what the asker was going for here. For example I'm using a hacked together copy of the message system to pop up a fake text screen in the center of the screen, and implement the messages like this :
$ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("Hey new guy, asked Liv to grab your number for me.", False, 0)] $ girl3_msg_count += 1 show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name) pause $ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("Mind coming to meet me out in the woods? Got a surprise for you.", False, 0)] $ girl3_msg_count += 1 show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name) pauseAdding new messages in that method makes filling out the array rollback safe, and the message isn't added to the chat system until that section of the label is reached, so if you talk to her about something else sooner, or choose to not have this conversation, it won't go into the chat history.
So are you able to play out the messages sequentially WITHOUT closing and opening the text window? Because thats my only issue with this phone system...
I want to be able to have the text convos live like they are immersive building tension/delivering story with the app staying open.
If you are doing that with this system without having to use nvl or something that would be awesome to know
Yes and no, technically I am using a fake message screen, one I have set up to show up in the center of the screen. It's in the normal label system, so each click takes you a step forward, and it's rollback safe. You get the texts at set periods of time (It'd be doable to choose to do them at any time, but a bit messy) so you're never actually in the "real" text window.
Here's an imgur gallery of what's happening, between each image is a single click, no phone navigation (Please ignore the separate font on image 3, these were wip images and I fixed up the menu options later, and had decided to swap to the default font for the phone because it's easier to read the smaller text)
To do that I added this to the bottom of mobile.rpy
#################################################### ########## MESSAGE CHAT ########### #################################################### transform chatpos: xalign .5 yalign 0.5 screen chat_message(count, girl, messageholder, gname): zorder 0 modal False add "Mobile/Backgrounds/phone_msg_bg2.webp" at chatpos add "Mobile/Icons/girl[girl]_msg_icon_sign.webp": xalign 0.5 yalign 0.275 text "[gname]": color "#000000" xalign 0.55 yalign 0.275 vpgrid: cols 1 rows 1 ymaximum 445 xmaximum 285 mousewheel True scrollbars "vertical" side_xalign 0.5 side_yalign 0.565 yfill False xfill False yinitial 1.0 hbox: style_prefix "msg_style" vbox: spacing 5 for i in range(0, count): frame: if messageholder[i].fromMC: background Frame("images/mobile/backgrounds/sent_background.webp", 0,0,0,0) else: background Frame("images/mobile/backgrounds/received_background.webp", 0,0,0,0) vbox: xsize 250 if messageholder[i].fromMC: add "images/mobile/backgrounds/nuggetR.webp" size (16, 16) xalign 1.0 yalign 0.0 else: add "images/mobile/backgrounds/nuggetL.webp" size (16, 16) xalign 0.0 yalign 0.0 text messageholder[i].message if messageholder[i].selfie > 0: #BadMustard 0 = no image 1 - 1million = an image from the list #use the thumb for the button imagebutton idle phone_images[messageholder[i].selfie].thumb: action Show("phone_closeup", dissolve, phone_images[messageholder[i].selfie].images) xalign 0.5 yalign 0 ########## MESSAGE CHAT STOP ###########I also added this to screens.rpy, under the choice screen section, which you can find with ctrl+f "screen choice(items):"
screen choice(items): if isTexting: vpgrid: cols 1 rows 1 xmaximum 300 xalign .7 yalign .6 hbox: style_prefix "msg_style" vbox: xsize 300 spacing 10 for i in items: frame: xalign 1.0 background Frame("images/mobile/backgrounds/sent_background.webp", 0,0,0,0) textbutton i.caption action i.action else: style_prefix "choice" vbox: for i in items: textbutton i.caption action i.actionWhen you want to use the text message choice screen for menus, you simply add "$ isTexting = True" before the menu choice, and then "$ isTexting = False" when you are done texting.
A full example dialogue (The one in the imgur gallery) looks like this
#Hides the sidebar phone screen hide screen phoneaway #Enables Texting Menu Options $ isTexting = True #Enables contact info for girl3 on the phone, you only should do this the first time, if you don't enable contact info by default $ girl3_phone = True #Adds the message to her text queue $ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("Hey new guy, asked Liv to grab your number for me.", False, 0)] #Makes the message appear in her text screen $ girl3_msg_count += 1 #Calls my fake phone chat screen show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name) #Makes you need to click to continue pause #Adds the second message $ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("Mind coming to meet me out in the woods? Got a surprise for you.", False, 0)] #And makes it appear in her text screen $ girl3_msg_count += 1 #Hides the old screen to prevent cluttering a bunch of layers hide screen chat_message #Brings up the new screen show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name) pause menu: "Jane?": $ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("Is this Jane?", True, 0)] $ girl3_msg_count += 1 hide screen chat_message show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name) pause $ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("No it's Santa Claus, now get your butt out here! It's fucking cold away from the fire.", False, 0)] $ girl3_msg_count += 1 hide screen chat_message show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name) pause "New Phone Who Dis?": $ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("New phone, who dis?", True, 0)] $ girl3_msg_count += 1 hide screen chat_message show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name) pause $ girl3_message = girl3_message + [messageitem("You've got two minutes to get out here before I start rethinking this idea.", False, 0)] $ girl3_msg_count += 1 show screen chat_message(count=girl3_msg_count, girl=3, messageholder=girl3_message, gname=girl3_name) hide screen chat_message #Shows the sidebar phone again show screen phoneaway $ isTexting = FalseI believe this would be tweakable to work in the "real" phone, but imo I think having the conversation brought up to the center of the screen works better than hiding it off in the corner.
If you want to make it so that you can jump to the conversations from the phone at any time, you'd have to create a label specifically for the conversation, and then some various if statement checks to figure out which label to go to every time you interact with the texting system on the phone. I considered that when I started working on things, but this just ended up being easier for me. You can still open the conversation history on the phone when you want to look back at things.
by setting bg1-9 to True like this
$ bg2 = True
I had bg1 as True by default in the script.rpy and it was the default background on the phone